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Sascha Camilli's avatar

Such great points here, especially about how humans suffer in the industry too. Animal agriculture is just awful all around. Also, vegans aren't always comparing animal suffering to human suffering? We're just reminding that animals do suffer - immensely and unimaginably. That doesn't take away from all the other suffering in the world.

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Sarah Benn's avatar

My observation is that people use different arguments when justifying their actions to other people and when justifying their actions to themselves and their conscience. The rejection of comparison between animal and human suffering seems particularly used in the first circumstance rather than the second. Arguing that animal sentience and thus suffering is somehow lesser is advanced as an argument because it can't be 'proved' otherwise, and 'I have a right to my own opinion' etc. Outrage is expressed for example, should anyone dare to talk about the Holocaust and animal suffering in the same breath. Yet the overwhelming majority of people can see the same fear, pain, suffering and despair in the eyes of a factory farmed animal, as in the eyes of a preverbal child in a war zone... neither can rationalise what is happening to them (could anyone?), but both are visibly feeling it in every fibre of their being. This argument (human suffering can't be compared to animal suffering) is offered in conversation, but for most people simply doesn't ring true in their gut. So they use a different argument in their own inner dialogue.... that the pictures of torment and animal suffering all over the internet are from other places in the world, or the inevitable 'bad apples' in an otherwise good welfare system, and that none of those animals have ended up on their own personal plate. The human psyche is complex, devious and self-serving. Thank you Pala for continuing to unpick these untruths and self-deceptions so meticulously.

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